Eagles over Norway, By Andreas Brekken

[Richard T Eger]

This is a terrific reference site for researching the Luftwaffe. Some discussions around the offerings on this site can already be found on the "Document Types" forum under the topic "Luftwaffe Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt. loss lists, layout, format, contents". The site address is:

http://www.stormbirds.com/eagles/

The site sections are as follows:

News - Latest additions to the site and quick looks and key information.

Research

New book on JG 5 published! - JG 5 "Eismeer". New title from Eric Mombeek. Also, cover illustrations from Eric's other books.

Luftwaffe loss data online? - Three examples, in .pdf format, are given of the "Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei den Fl. Verbänden":

Jan 2, 1943; Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt.Nr. 20/43 g.Kdos (IC).

Jan 9, 1943; Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt.Nr. 180/43 g.Kdos (IC).

Jan. 14, 1943; Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt.Nr. 330/43 g.Kdos (IC).

Luftwaffe loss data from RLM 2 III 1170-1172 - This document contains example transcripts of the index cards found in the files RLM 2 III/1170 through 1172.

BA/MA file numbers - This document contain a sample listing of the BA/MA archive reference (RL) numbers for the original loss records recorded by the Generalstab of the Generalquartiermeisterabteilung 6. It also contain information on how to order copies of these files.

More BA/MA file numbers - Further examples of the above.

ULTRA decrypts - Information on how to locate the decrypts and other files of interest at the (Public Record Office) PRO in London is presented, along with a link to the PRO's site.

Online bookshops - Suggestions on how to buy books over the Internet and links and information to 3 European on-line booksellers.

Gradnetzmeldeverfahren - Reference article regarding the map system used by the Luftwaffe for localization purposes.

Albums

Help identify! Pilot from Jagdgeschwader 5

Egon Mayer, JG 2 - Photo identified.

Help identify pilots of III./KG 200 !

Color photographs of aircraft from 1. Staffel of Jagdgeschwader 1 - 4 color photos of Bf 109E-?, Black 11+.

Mystery Bf 109 - Possibly an E-? or T-?.

Pilots of 14.(Jabo)/Jagdgeschwader 5 identified

Photographs of aircraft from Jagdgruppe Drontheim - 7 photos of Bf 109E-?'s.

Photographs of personnel from 16./JG 5 - Need help identifying 6 photos.

Unit related

Pilots II./JG 77 in Norway 1940 - Tables showing pilot's names, ranks, functions, aircraft markings, comments, and pilots's fates.

14.(Jabo)/JG 5

A. Table listing the Jabostaffel of Jagdgeschwader 5 'Eismeer', including links to data on the individual members.

B. Table of operational personnel & aircraft losses of the Jabostaffel

C. Link to Flugzeugbestandliste for the 14.(Jabo)/JG 5

Aircraft inventory lists with linked information

Bestandsliste Stab Jagdfliegerführer Norwegen - 3/42 - 12/43.

Bestandsliste Stab Jagdgeschwader 5 "Eismeer" - 7/42 - 12/44.

Bestandsliste I./JG 5 "Eismeer" - 3/42 - 9/44.

Bestandsliste II./JG 5 "Eismeer" - 3/42 - 9/44.

Bestandsliste III./JG 5 "Eismeer" - 3/42 - 12/44.

Bestandsliste IV./JG 5 "Eismeer" - 6/42 - 12/44.

Bestandsliste 14.(Jabo)/JG 5 - 1/43 - 1/44

Bestandsliste 10.(Z)/JG 5 "Eismeer" - 3/42 - 5/42.

Bestandsliste 13.(Z)/JG 5 "Eismeer" - 6/42 - 6/44.

Bestandsliste I./SG 5 - 10/43 - 12/44.

Bestandsliste 4./SG 5 - 1/44 - 4/44.

Online Resources - Links to 5 major online sites.

Regards,
Richard

[This message has been edited by Richard T Eger (edited 11 February 2024).]

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Alex Smart
Luftwaffe losses
Sun Jan 6 15:02:45 2024


Can anyone out there help/
I require details of Luftwaffe losses for 31-12-1944.
Thanks

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Nick Beale
Losses on 31.12.44
Sun Jan 6 17:30:44 2024


File RL2 III/1171 at the bundesarchiv-Militärarchiv at Freiburg will give you the day and night fighter losses for 24–31 December 1944. After that, you may find some fragmentary information in the Generalquartiermeister 6. Abteilung records (originals at Freiburg, microfilm copies at the Imperial war Museum in London) but only in the form of corrections, updates or late reports since the actual 1944 returns are missing.

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Alex Smart
Luftwaffe losses
Sun Jan 6 22:39:06 2024


Thanks Nick,
When I have time i'll look it all up.
Alex

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Andreas Brekken
RL 2 III file numbers
Mon Jan 7 07:45:04 2024


Hi!

If You look up my pages on

http://www.stormbirds.com/eagles

You will find directions to which files hold the information You are interested in.

It is important to understand the way the Germans reported their losses, and a loss that occured on 31.12.1944 would not have been reported before January 1st 1945 as the earliest possible date. In addition, losses for this date could be spread out over months in the 1945 loss lists, depending on where the unit in question was located with regards to possibility to send in their loss data fast to the Generalquartiermeister office.

If You are looking for specific info, pls contact me.

Regards,

Andreas Brekken

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

FrankieS
Luftwaffe Grid Map Converter (Excel)
Thu Dec 16, 2024 02:26
217.253.154.226


Hi all !

I have just finished 'LUMA' which is an Excel based complete LW gridmap converter.
Take a look to Andreas Brekkens and SES'S websites in the coming days,
where it will be posted for free download.
Don't forget to read the .pdf file 'LUMA Guide' which gives help for using the
Excel program.

Your feedback is appreciated.
Enjoy !

http://www.stormbirds.com/eagles/

http://www.gyges.dk/Gyges1.htm

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Csaba Becze
Re: Luftwaffe Grid Map Converter (Excel)
Thu Dec 16, 2024 09:27
80.139.87.231


Thanks, Frankie,

I'll try it ASAP.

Csaba

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Geoff Kennell
Re: Try this page...
Thu Dec 16, 2024 18:04
195.92.67.78


Cheers Drew, but this is one reference that I'd already found.

The webpage gives I/ZG2 emblem, but can anyone confirm this was used during the Battle of Britain, and did ZG1 & 2/ZG1 have their own emblems that were used during the battle?

Geoff.