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FW190F8 / SG2 "Black 43", Yugoslavia, Kovin
Sat Jan 12 23:54:14 2025
Today in Yugoslav Airforce Museum lucky one can see FW190F8. I say lucky one since FW is in storage and still its not HIS/HER turn for restoration!
AND TO GO THEIR U NEED TO PULL STRINGS HIGH IN ARMY TOPS
but as I've said there are lucky ones
*** Note: Beside FW190F8 in the storage one can see few more parts of invisible F-117 (quite visible over there
(aldo in quite bad shape since it was shoot down), pieces of F-16 in similar shape, Fiat G50 Bis... ETC
BUT I'm INTERESTED IN FW 190 F8!
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And here we go: (Please visit)
http://www.maketorama.co.yu/markings/13_03.htm
I'll translate some of the most important things written there!!!
Text claims that FW190 F8 from YuAF Museum was from SG2 (Schlachtgeschwader 2). It says that parts of SG2 were positioned in 1944 in northern part of Serbia called Banat in place Kovin and that they came there from Russia. At the end of 1944 Yugoslav Army captured that airfield and some Me109 G/K and ONE FW190 F8!
From Kovin these planes were than transferred to Zemun Airport near Belgrade where YuAF markings were painted over Luftwaffe markings! A/C was used in YuAF in 1945/46. After that it spent some time on open exhibition where German markings were again redrawn over YuAF.
Its know that FW190F8 had W.Nr. 930838 and that it was produced in Nord-deutsche Dornier Werke (NDW) (factory), Wismar, Berlin. It was part of SG2.
A/C was equipped with older straight canopy.
People in museum are not sure what was the original colours of the plane because it had so 'hard life".
There are few possibilities: 70/75/76 with mottling in 02/70... than "standard" 74/75/76... than 83/75/76 where mottling was done with 81/83...
It is believed that this plane was most probably PAINTED in 70/75/76!
In SG2 our FW190F8 was marked with Black 43 (outlined in white) and it was renumbered in YuAF in White 11, where Luftwaffe crosses and No. were over painted.
It is believed that a/c used to have Black spinner with white spiral.
Exhaust panel was painted with Black and outlined with white!
All the stencils were standard ones.
It seems that during LWF usage they removed lower surfaces ETC 50 racks and that places were over painted with RLM 02.
All the trim tabs were painted red (not "vien rot").
It says also that upper wing crosses were white crosses (910mm), lower surfaces ones were simplified (900mm) and fuselage 800mm black/white/black ones.
A/C used to have Yellow "V" painted on lower surface of left wing, which was coming on the top of the upper surface.
There were no other special markings (unit badge of any kind or RV band, etc.)
IM INTERESTED in following (concerning FW while in LW markings):
*1 DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGESTIONS CONCERNING COLOURS? (Is that 70/75/76 possible or it should be something else?)
*2 WAS THERE ANY STANDARD TYPE OF NOMBERS IN SG2 AND WHAT TYPE IT WAS (for me this 43 looks strange)
*3 WHICH PART OF SG2 USED YUGOSLAV AIRFIELDS IN 1944?
*4 WHAT SIZE AND POSITION SHOULD BE (UNDER WING) "V"? (Also I've seen somewhere that "V" under both wings?)
*5 WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH BLACK EXHAUST PANEL? DOES IT LOOK RIGHT AND POSSIBLE TO YOU?
*6 ANY OTHER COMENTS INFO AND PICTURES U HAVE ABOUT THIS MATTER I'D LIKE TO SEE!
*EXTRA: ALSO IF ANYONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT CROATIAN BF109's AND MS406's AND HE IS WILLING TO SHARE THEM WITH US/ME, I'D LIKE TO HEAR (AND SEE) THEM!
Note: I can explain why I'm asking you people for all this things and not someone in YuAF Museum, but I don't wanna do it in public. We c