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Richard T Eger 10-03-2002 11:16 PM

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Frank Goodridge
109E found in India!
Thu Sep 5 12:41:51 2002

The October 2002 'Aeroplane' has some pictures and an article regarding a Bf109E-1 found in southern India.

Their web site:

also has the photo's.

Any ideas as to its identity? The article refers to "the markings 9/JG52/53 were noted on the tail".

Curiouser and curiouser!!

Richard T Eger 10-03-2002 11:17 PM

From TOCH!:

See here for a dicussion...
Thu Sep 5 13:56:51 2002

Richard T Eger 08-11-2003 12:26 PM

The Warbird Alley website, by Buck Wyndham & Peter Tillson, describes itself as "an online reference source for information about privately-owned, ex-military aircraft." The site address is:

Sections of Luftwaffe interest are:

Aircraft Information, Histories, Links and More - As the section title describes, there are presented for each aircraft brief histories, technical data, a photo, and links to information on where examples of that specific aircraft is currently located.

Focke-Wulf Fw 190

Flug Werke, Gammelsdorf, Germany
Fw 190 Restoration at Flying Tigers Museum, Florida, USA
Texas Air Museum, Rio Hondo, Texas, USA

Messerschmitt Bf-109 - Includes link to a pilot's report.

Dakota Messerschmitts
Flug Werk, Gammelsdorf, Germany

Heinkel He-111 / Casa 2.111

He 111 visits Kingston, Ontario, Canada (Commerative Air Force)

Fieseler Fi156 Storch

CAF Ghost Squadron -- Fi 156 Storch, Texas
John's Slepcev Storch Project - Canada, Australia, China, Italy
USAF Museum Storch, Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, Ohio

Junkers Ju 52/3m

CAF Great Lakes Wing Ju 52, N352JU, near Chicago, Illinois
Ju-Air, Dubendorf, Switzerland

Messerschmitt Bf 108 Taifun - Includes link to Bf 108 flight report.

Messerschmitt Me-262

Planes of Fame, Chino, California
Me 262 Project, Everett, Wasington

Note, while I have only listed where information on specific aircraft are located, other, more general, information is also offered via links.

Warbird Restoration and Maintenance Links - Links to about 30 restoration shop sites.

Warbird Organizations - Links to about 50 organizations.

Museums - Links to museum sites around the world.

Airshow Links - About 25 listed.

Additional Warbird Links - Very good selection of links on the following topic areas:

Databases and History Resources
Archaeology and Collector's Resources
Books / Manuals / Magazines / Webzines / Videos
Photo Archives
Aviation Art
Pilot Supplies / Clothing / Flight Gear
Warbird Aircraft Acquisition Sources

Warbird News - A monthly update on warbirds news.


Richard T Eger 09-16-2003 11:53 AM

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Tom Davis
[email protected]
Bf 109 E-1 in India
Fri Aug 29 19:05:25 2003

Here's a translation of an article that appeared in a German newspaper:
Shortly before its planned scrapping, in southern India a rare BF 109 E-1 with Werknummer 4034 could be saved. A British collector has bought the machine and wants to restore it in England with an also available DB 601-engine to an airworthy condition. The fighter built in 1939 at Focke-Wulf in Bremen still bears remains of its original camouflage painting. Probably it belonged to 8./JG53 and was flown by Xavier Ray. He had to perform an emergency landing on 2. November 1940 near Lower Hardres on British territory. The plane was shipped to India, probably as a technical piece of exhibition. Only in 1996 the rare specimen was recognized by an aviation engineer and so rediscovered. At the moment there is only one single airworthy Bf 109 E.


Richard T Eger 09-16-2003 11:54 AM

From TOCH!:

is it known...
Fri Aug 29 21:51:35 2003

Does anyone know how much 109 was payed by lucky British collector?

Richard T Eger 09-16-2003 11:54 AM

From TOCH!:

Trevor Matthews
Sat Aug 30 07:32:16 2003

It's old news Guy Black acquired the aircraft 12 months ago.

Richard T Eger 09-16-2003 11:55 AM

From TOCH!:

I know its old news...
Sat Aug 30 17:15:08 2003

U can see the discussion we had over on LEMB but I'm wondering the same thing since then - how much it was paid!?


Note, the LEMB's new URL is .


Richard T Eger 09-16-2003 11:57 AM

From TOCH!:

Larry Hickey
109 in India
Fri Aug 29 22:37:13 2003

I don't recall that photographs of Ray's aircraft after capture have ever been published. Anybody know of source for same. Certainly since it was shipped to India, it was probably received with some press fanfare, and photos of it on display in India should certainly exist.


Larry Hickey

Richard T Eger 09-16-2003 11:58 AM

From TOCH!:

[email protected]
German newspaper
Fri Aug 29 22:46:49 2003

Hello Tom,

that are good news. I cant believe that the peoples at india want scrap this plane... :(

Can you give me the name of the german newspaper or directly the german article? I want this for my website.


Richard T Eger 09-16-2003 11:59 AM

From TOCH!:

[email protected]
Heh. This is fairly interesting...
Sun Aug 31 12:38:27 2003

nice to see The 109 Lair gets read by mainstream media outlets, even if it's not credited... :-/ Tom, would you mind forwarding me the link or contact info for that paper? Since my site is the one which originally postulated the ID of this aircraft (after discussions with Dave MacDonald and Dave Wadman), I'd be interested in at least updating my article with this info.



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