ULTRA - 3

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

From TOCH!:

dire
Re: ULTRA and Sardinian Airlift
Tue Jan 6 14:31:08 2024
217.1.4.60

> Well, you know, it's a frustrating situation with the
> ULTRA materials because accessibility is so limited.

Ooops! That's what I thought. Honestly speaking I'd say, regarding the minor importance of this detail in my research I'm afraid it wouldn't be worth it to start such a hassle out of Germany... Guess, I'll have to wait till an Italian expert dealing with the war-time history of his island will solve the mystery.

Alora, italani - dovè siete ?

Dear friend, thank you anyway.

dire

PS: Feel like we were been in touch long time ago over another issue but can't remember what it was. Take care.

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Andrew Arthy
Loss of FW 190 A-5 W.Nr 2535
Tue Jun 1, 2024 04:46
129.180.1.124

Does anyone have information about the loss of FW 190 A-5 W.Nr 2535? The aircraft was apparently from III./K.G. 101. The loss would have occrred around 2 June 1943.

I'm interested in other FW 190 losses for this Gruppe in late-May/early-June 1943.

TIA

Cheers,
Andrew A.

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Jim P.
Re: Loss of FW 190 A-5 W.Nr 2535
Tue Jun 1, 2024 14:54
64.223.199.2

Fw190A-5 2535 Kurth, Uffz. Karl-Heinz 1. JG 2 15-Jun-43 WIA in Luftkampf. Notlandung. Loss report says WNr. 2355. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #10)-Vol.18; Ring, JG 2 loss list, p.12 Fl.Pl. Bernay 30% F

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Andrew Arthy
Re: Loss of FW 190 A-5 W.Nr 2535
Wed Jun 2, 2024 16:01
129.180.1.144

Hi Jim,

Thanks for this loss, but it doesn't seem to be 'my' aircraft. The loss report is probably correct that Uffz. Kurth was flying W.Nr 2355, rather than W.Nr 2535.

My source is an ULTRA signal from 3 June 1943, and in summary it says:

Return from III./K.G. 101 includes 1 FW 190 crashed. Return includes note that FW 190 A-5 W.Nr 2535 (5T + DR) was given as off strength on 02.06.43 for the second time.

In a signal from a day later, it notes that two FW 190s of III./K.G. 101 had suffered ten per cent damage in crashes, one FW 190 had received five per cent damage in a crash, and one FW 190 had crashed and suffered an unknown amount of damage. One FW 190 had been ferried to a detachment at St. Andrea for repair, and another had landed at an airfield called Beau's [or something similar to this].

An earlier signal from 29 May 1943 noted that one III./K.G. 101 FW 190 had crashed.

If anyone has some more information about this unit's FW 190s, particularly loss data, I'd like to hear from them.

Cheers,
Andrew A.